Charlie Eblen

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04:02We're gonna do a full insurance show We talk about all the different kinds of insurance and I'll ask all of the dumb questions so that you don't have to And we're gonna have the compost company Jeffrey Ezell. He's gonna come on and explain exactly what he does how he does it and why He's gonna help you with retention and why he's gonna help you save our planet lots of cool stuff happening there I also want to tell you guys we've had a couple people to see loose tacos and Eastside bond me they have a new concept called Eastside Fuh and it's gonna be opening up at the wash in East Nashville Tyler Cobble was on the show He had this idea He took a car wash and he made six bays six different bays and five of those bays have small restaurants and in the sixth Bay is going to be a Micro bar a craft cocktail micro bar and I am super excited for that just that concept He's a great dude He's such a champion for East Nashville and that whole thing just as it is a great great concept the planned opening is Saturday October Saturday April the 30th. So if you're wondering when you're gonna get in there and get into those new restaurants Saturday April the 30th, I'm so sorry. I'm trying to get you into that later on in the year Today let's talk about today today we're talking to Charlie and Charlie is with single tree barbecue He is the owner and the pit master for single tree barbecue And we're gonna kind of make the end of April and may kind of a little barbecue month as we've got an interview with Pat Martin coming out at the beginning of May. He has his new book life of fire out but this story today from Charlie is just such a Unique story. This guy's a businessman. I loved talking to him. We've read a lot of the same books He's honest to me because he's got this huge beard and I didn't expect him to be You know, you have no idea. Well, that's the danger. I guess you look at somebody and you think hey this guy looks like he's could be as easy top and and then he just blew me away just the passion this guy has the I

06:05Don't know the guts to completely pivot during a pandemic I am loving just absolutely loving bringing all of these pandemic pivots To the show people that have we're starting to see success stories from people who said I'm done with the bullshit And I'm doing my own thing and I'm making it happen and we're coming out of this whole pandemic thing on the right side and Charlie's one of those guys. I mean his story is fantastic. I loved hearing it. I love talking to him I could have talked to him for hours and hours on end but I say that a lot of people because I I Do I fall in love with these people they're amazing I am so honored that I get to share their stories with you So you can hear me talk some more or not. Let's let's uh, let's not Let's let me go enjoy my time in Phoenix, Arizona. Enjoy some Sun. Here's some people Maybe I'll come back with some new ideas, but we'll be Friday We're gonna be we have a new show coming out Friday and it's gonna be with one my name Sherry Janaro And it's just gonna we're gonna talk about All kinds of stuff It's just it's just like an hour of me and Jen and Sherry shooting the shit and it was an absolute blast We're gonna be all new a week from today mark your calendar We have got Bob Bernstein on the podcast and he is gonna talk He's the owner of bongo Java Fido greens vegetarian cafe bongo East He's got a lot of stuff going on and we talk about most of it Cannot wait to have him back. I think we can do like an episode with him every week. He is old Nashville We talk about preserving Nashville and that is an episode. I am Really excited to bring to you. But today today I'm excited because it is Monday my favorite day and You're gonna get to hear a story of Charlie who owns single tree barbecue Y'all enjoy Super excited today to welcome in Charlie Eblen

08:10Who is the owner and pitmaster for single tree barbecue Welcome to Nashville restaurant radio. Thank you. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Oh, man. It's our it's our pleasure We've we've had some pretty amazing pit masters on the show Carrie bring old Pat Martin I don't think will from Ed Lee's is a pit master, but he's the owner of Ed Lee's right and so you're in good company coming in for sure. Tell me about single tree barbecue Man, where do I begin? So, you know we we started in Officially opened the doors to the food truck in May of 2020 or 21, excuse me right Not right in the middle pandemic but right in the middle of pandemic. Well, we started the company really in October of 2020 Okay, smack dad right in the middle. Was it an idea that you'd had for years or was this something that hey? Look the pandemic started we're all at home and I've got time and you had wood and you were like I'm gonna perfect this thing and by October you were like, holy shit. We should make money doing this Well, I have been in the restaurant business for 27 years Okay, everything from left right up and down I've done and my my previous position. I was a Director of operations I had the entire southeast for a Nationally known name company was a bar Louie. Okay Very cool. So I traveled all over the place was on the road four or five days a week Bar Louie went through some pretty tough Transitions with bankruptcies and and you know, they came out on the other side They did well But they had to make some tough decisions on who was gonna stick around who wasn't gonna stick around and I made it through the first three or four cuts But at last one was was the end of my career at Bar Louie. So Was it a fun place to work?

10:06We loved it You know it was Laid back with high standards At least in my region You know, I can't can't really speak for everybody else outside of the southeast. I did a tater tot eating contest there Yeah, the one in the gulch when it first opened, right? I sold them produce and they're the big I don't if they do it annually or what it is But like we had to do tater tots and I I'm not good at competitively eating. I'm gonna say that right now. I Can I'm right there with you? I'm not I'm not very good at it I'm like a giant, you know And I'm there and you have to eat like this big plate of tater tots and it's like there's like five teams But the people next to us was like two Women there was like a big dude and these two women that were like five Three seventy nine pounds. I mean just like right tiny girls Those girls were Machines they grabbed they literally just grabbed the tater tots and they dip it in water and then they crunched them all up and then Okay, so I was wondering if you did the water thing because tater tots will scratch your throat if you're just like shoving them Like cat and crunch like what you're trying to chew them first They were essentially by putting them they're like chewing them with their hands and they're just inhaling them That what they were like the anchors of their team I'm over here eating like three and four tots time chewing and they're just like Like whoa, I was blown away. It was awesome They are but I'm proud of it was badass. All right, so I'm sorry No, it just seemed like a fun place to work places that do that with a cool bar atmosphere I kind of look like laid-back, but it was really yeah, it was I haven't been there a long time But it was it was very laid-back You know in we This market in the Nashville area in the southeast was struggling for quite a while And I came on and kind of helped turn it around and get it back going in the right direction So what did you have to do? Well, we're like, I'm just curious now because like when you come in some when you get turned Back around what's the first thing you had to do?

12:07You know, I tell everybody man. It doesn't matter whether you're in corporate America or you own your own place It's all about people. It's it's a hundred percent about people. I say all the time, you know, look I may sell food, but I'm really in the people business Sure you know and and you get the right people in the right places in the right seat on a bus and In your business will thrive. Have you read good to great? Oh my hat. Okay, so it sounds like there's some Jim Collins So going on right there. Okay When I was in the corporate world, I read a lot more than I do now But you know, I also have a lot more to do now than I did when I was in the corporate world So alright, so pandemic starts. Yep. What are you doing? You're working? So I'm at Bar Louie And in March when when it really everything started shutting down arts 12 going through it. Yep, and We're going through the going through the motions. We're shutting down recreating ourselves doing all that kind of fun stuff and I guess in the 1st of October Was was really kind of the last cut for Bar Louie and I Got a phone call my boss got let go. I get a phone call the next day and Saying hey, you know, we appreciate we appreciate your service. Thank you for all you've done But you know, this is the end of the line. Yeah, so I said, okay well, you know now what right and I guess it was the next day or two we you know me and my wife kind of took a Took a second to decompress and figure out What's up and down for a minute and I'm sitting in my office and never forget it was like it was yesterday and I'm on my laptop and I'm you know on the indeed and LinkedIn and you know updating everything what's out there. Yeah, what's going on and and I'm just kind of sitting there And I got my I kind of got my head down and my hands on my face and my wife walks in and goes you okay?

13:59And I said, yeah, you know, I'm alright and she goes well, you know, what are we gonna do? You know, it's been a couple days. We need to figure this out. What are we gonna do? And I just looked at her and I said, well, there's there's nobody's hiring I mean, it's it's October of 2020 who's who's hiring restaurant executives at that level anyways, right? So She said well, when are you gonna when are you gonna stop making other people money and start making your own money? You know do your own thing. It's a very valid question You have the ability it really hit me like a ton of bricks. I've always wanted to have a restaurant I've had you know written menus and drawn out blueprints and you know done everything there is to do just on my side when I had some spare time just as kind of creative thinking projects really more than anything else and She said why don't you just start your own? you know stop depending on everybody else to to be successful and depend on yourself and And it's it really it really hit my core because I used to say that all the time is you know You can't depend on somebody else to teach you you can't depend on somebody else to train you grow yourself You know get up in the morning and do something, you know, take take 30 minutes take 15 minutes whatever time and Grow your own personal self to be better whether that's in the professional segment or personal. It doesn't really matter, right?

15:22So I like this guy. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you You're preaching I like it You know, man, I was I was I was raised by a man who worked his tail off and a grandfather who never stopped and and and that's really You know how single tree came to be and what hit me like a ton of bricks was, you know My grandfather spent 27 years in the military Got out was an attorney Became a federal judge out of Chattanooga You know, he had a farm in Bell Buckle, Tennessee That's where I spent as much time as I possibly could whether it was, you know fixing fences or you know Tending to the garden or whatever. It may be cattle horses the whole nine yards and and then at the end of the day We would we would get done He had a just gorgeous outdoor fireplace that we would sit by and we'd cook dinner and tell stories And you know try to conquer the world's problems and you know I was you know, seven eight nine ten years old and and remember it like it was yesterday, right?

16:30some of the some of the best times of my life and He always wanted to have a restaurant and you know always talked about man That would be so much fun and this had the other and we loved to cook and you know meet people and talk and so When I'm sitting there looking at my wife, it just kind of you know Hit me square in the face and said hey, let's let's let's do it and It was it was suiting my grandfather's farm. The name of the farm was single tree So when I'm writing everything out and thinking about what I'm going to do, I love cooking over live fires I've always done smoking at the house you know messed up more barbecue than I care to mention, but You know just worked as hard as I could Yep, have you seen this? Have you read this? I'm holding it and and I haven't read it yet, but I Worked for Pat for a short period of time. So okay as I have the book life of fire I'm holding up Pat Martin's new book life fire watch every book just getting into He'll be in studio on the 19th and we're gonna go over the whole book But I'm so fascinated by this because I had no idea That there's so many stages to a fire Yeah, right. So there's the beginning stages Then there's like the intermediate and you add like you're building a fire to add to to keep a fire going to keep your smoking going right So I'm super interested in hearing how you learned all this stuff. And is that something that you learned on single tree farm?

18:05I learned I learned a lot there. I learned a lot from the book life of fire learned a lot from Pat you know, he gave me the opportunity to go to LA and and Meet some really cool people there with William Dernie and Aaron Franklin and Sam Jones Wow, you know So, you know and the whole time I'm there I'm you know, like a little kid in a candy store picking their brains and you know, hey, man What how do you do that? You know, and so And then a lot's just been trial and error, you know, it's it's uh, you know I think Aaron Franklin said said once that you know, you're you're if you want to start cooking briskets great You're gonna screw a whole bunch of them up before you get it even close to right and you know, you learn every day you know, I mean I Learned new things every day just by doing it every day and it's it's uh It's not easy. You know, it's it's you're up early. You're you're you're Stay stay up late and and don't get a lot of sleep when you're doing smoking stuff, but it's it's amazingly fun is that is that the case because I Love like once or twice a year. I'll get the smoker out. I don't have us. I used to have a smoker I don't have it. It's dead now, but I want to build like a brick I want to build like a cinder block kind of a thing going on. Mm-hmm. That's not the story. I Love doing like twice a year you get some ribs I do like a marinate like this coffee rub that I do on them and I it takes, you know 12 hours to do but it's like this labor of love and they're so good and they're amazing like When you do that for fun, it's beautiful when you share it with people and they Yeah, but when you Do that for a living?

19:51Does that change the fun of it? I mean because you're like damn now I have to go do that It's not something I'm choosing to do for fun You know, I wake up every day choosing to do it and and the love and the passion that I have for it is just It's it's unmatched. I mean I I've never been this happy in my in my career You know, it's it's I get more time with my wife and kids, you know, my my ten-year-old, you know Did all of all the smoking with me last night? You know, so I mean he he looked at me we were putting we were getting the pork butts ready and putting them on the Smoker last night and and he looked at me and he said he said dad. This this looks like a lot of fun. I Think I could do this and I said well, that's good because you know, you're doing it right now Right now, you know I mean he just had this huge smile on his face and you know, it's it's moments like that that make it all worth All the you know, look man, I'm not I'm not he man I get tired too, right?

20:53Oh, yeah, and and and grumpy and this that and the other and and you know Just like any other human being in this world, you know We wake up on the wrong side of the bed sometime but you know I cook barbecue for a living and talk to wonderful people all the time and get to meet somebody new every day and You know, it's and tell my story, you know You know, we we started this company for that reason to to sell the perfect plate of barbecue and help grow and build a community around it through our barbecue and You know, it's not yeah, you know, my barbecue is pretty good I think it's you know, but I'm not gonna sit here and say it's better than Pat's or Carrie's or Aaron's or any of those guys they they're they're amazing pit masters and do Amazing things and but mine's different, you know, it's it's mine. It's my spin, right? It's not you know, Pat does a lot of you know, whole hog, right? I love cooking whole hog. It's Awesome to do we did one for New Year's but you know, it's not that's not what I do every day, right?

21:57What do you do every day like because I know Carrie's like he has bring all smoke and oasis now where he does brisket But people always go to pregnant porker and go why don't you have brisket? That's Texas barbecue. I do Tennessee barbecue That's all I do here, right? Do you have any kind of rules like that where you're like, no I only do these four things or I I Do what my guests want me to do My passion is around brisket. Okay. I absolutely love cooking brisket. I think it's one of the hardest things to smoke one from a time standpoint You know and just the trimming and the fire and it's just the whole process is very Time-consuming and intricate. It's it's you know, I tell people all the time It's more like an art form than it is than it is a step-by-step cooking process So can we step by step go how you do it? Yeah, you tell some I think I'd be what they eat brisket You know that you smoke it right? Are you familiar with this Jen?

22:57So I grew up Jewish and the way we prepared brisket is different It's like done and it's more like meatloaf to raise right so like I that's the brisket I'm familiar with right. So I don't know. So do you first of all, what type of meat are you using? So I you're to buy it. What would you buy from? Who do you use Cisco? Couple of different people you know, I don't I don't go through the hundreds and hundreds of pounds that you know, some of these other guys do but You know, I only buy prime brisket I Like choice, it's it's okay, but I typically only buy prime So it's a little bit more expensive but it just has a little bit different texture and flavor So so do you actually season the meat itself? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, very simple salt and pepper. Just Texas style I trim it trim it down get as much fat off of it as I can just leave about a quarter of an inch of fat Okay and then you know get the hickory get the Exclusively exclusively hickory. Okay now When you put it on there, what temperature do you typically do you like this is the life of fire thing?

24:08Yeah, do you start a fire you like a like a feeder fire to the other side of it? Or do you and then you put coals in there. So do you start the fire inside of it? That work I use an offset smoker so which is a stick burner it has a whole firebox on the side of the smoker Okay, I got you. You know like Pat does a lot of Open fire open pits with all of his whole hogs, which is which is phenomenal And that's not what you're doing, but that's not what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm doing You know pork butts and briskets and ribs and then you name it How long does it take to cook a brisket? Normally takes me 16 18 hours and do you have to like turn it like what do you do throughout? I'm kind of asking remedial questions for anybody who's listening Yeah, you know, I'm too embarrassed to ask these basic questions about brisket I'm like, maybe we can give a class to people and you can learn like oh, that's what brisket is Yeah, it's it's so so much of it is the smoker and how you trim it in in the fire The fire is probably the most important part of smoking You know a lot of people think that you know They drive down the road and you see these guys on the side of the road with smokers and they're smoke billowing out everywhere That's not good You don't you don't want a lot of smoke coming out. So that means you have a dirty fire is what we call it You're really cooking With the fire itself so you want to clean smoke which is looks more like vapors coming out. Yeah And when you do that You still get all the smoke flavor, you know get a get a nice pretty smoke ring and a whole nine yards But it cooks a lot more evenly a lot smoother and you know, just stays stays the process So it's easier to maintain the fire and you know when you get a lot of smoke It's normally your temperatures are fluctuating up and down. I try to stay around 225 230 When I'm cooking pork butts and briskets I

26:09Just the low slow process just it just does something special to the meat. Oh hell Yeah, so if you do that overnight, do you have to get up like multiple times throughout the night to like tend to it? Oh, yeah That's your favorite time. I love it Yeah, is it just is it like your form of meditation is like me time when you get to get there it's like it's just me It's dark Everybody else asleep. You look at the stars. Is that just like your moment? It's it's spectacular, man, you know, it's it's Growing up going back to Single-tree farm with my grandfather my dad and relatives sitting by a fire I mean, you know, that's that's where life lessons were learned for me, right? That's where you know Hey, you know, you got to use your manners, right? You got to be respectful and you know all the things that I learned growing up were staring into a fire So, you know sitting sitting outside and staring into a fire is you know brings me back to when I was seven so I am the wife of a restaurant owner and I also told him to go for it. I was like do it go for it and we have this fight all the time because I'm like, oh if Present Jen could talk to passion it may have been different advice and like I love our restaurant. He's happy It's it's great, but it's just you know, schedules are hard. We don't see each other as much We also have two kids. So have you said you got to see your wife more and your kids more and I was like Because you're probably doing this from home is your smoker at your house. Yeah, but I have so I have two smokers I have one on my own my truck that I do a lot on my truck as well But it's parked in my driveway. That's so so so if soy bistro was in your driveway I actually think I'd see him less. I'm not gonna like it's just right there. It's fine Look, I spend a lot of time in my trailer. Don't get me wrong. Does your wife work with you?

28:11Um, she does occasionally when we first opened she she did a lot Her and my kids did a lot you know getting getting opened and and Trying to promote the business and yeah, it's an all-hands-on deck it is and I'm not a dessert fella by any means So she she has all the recipes for the banana pudding the Oreo pudding the Apple Jacks all the all the fun things They I've come up with one dessert in the last year and a half and that's bacon wrapped Oreos I mean, that's sounds great, you know, it's wonderful, but it was you know, I needed a dessert And I thought it was gonna say like a peanut butter bushwhacker or something Peanut butter bushwhacker that we love and it's fantastic No much more simpler than that So I am NOT I just grew up not eating barbecue like it just wasn't a big thing in our house So one of the ways my husband figured I was pregnant is I was like, you know what? I could really go for some barbecue and he was like that's odd He's like you've never we've been together like six years. She's like you've never asked for that I'm like, yeah Well, I just I think I want some and he was like, I think you might be pregnant and like Had me take a test and sure as shit. I was pregnant My middle child little Charlie When he when my wife was pregnant with him, I had to get up every morning and go to Sonic That was hers and get the chili cheese pups. Wow. Oh, wow every morning every morning. Yeah, 7 a.m My big thing was chocolate pudding like loved chocolate pudding. I don't think my wife had any she'd nothing like that No weird cravings like nothing. I also had a lot of aversions like I still to this day can't eat ketchup Yeah, like severely grossed me out when I was pregnant and now the scent of it just like I can't do Wow Interesting I took a weird turn I didn't anticipate that it's just like that's what I when I think of barbecue I think of oh Yeah, I was pregnant. I just never eat it we it's you know now that I Now that I cook barbecue for a living

30:14We don't eat it. Yeah, you know, it's not and and I love barbecue The only time I really eat barbecue is when I'm on the trailer and need to get lunch or dinner or whatever You're also tasting like all day, right? Like RG. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I'm sure that so what is your go-to food? Then if you're like if I can never eat barbecue again the thing I would eat for the rest of my life I don't know. Okay. I have to have barbecue. Okay That's not a question. It's not a question. I ever want to deal with in my life. It's not gonna happen I'm not gonna take away. I don't know if you saw part of my soul Startled oh man, no barbecue You know, I don't know. I would probably go with steaks of sorts. That is a sideline Okay, but I'm gonna allow it. Well, the reason I say that is not not like it's good Feels like a foul It is but I don't want your you know, gas grill steak, right? I would say a big tomahawk Rib eye over an open fire You know would probably be Somewhere in that neighborhood or maybe lamb. I really like I really like lamb Lambs pretty tasty. You know what shit what I'm gonna have to like I have I feel so exposed right now because I have a gas grill and That's what I cook steaks on and I'm never happy with it And I have this big backyard with like I mean other woods and I could totally build something like there That would be Amazing like an outdoor and I think I'm gonna I think gave him a new project Yeah, I think I'm now gonna have to build one and I'm gonna have to become like I'll tell you just get really close To the mic and say I'm so sorry Jennifer still I didn't mean I'm gonna read this life of fire book and then I'm just gonna have it's yeah, it's a funny story. I We bought our house four years ago, I guess ish somewhere in that neighborhood and Before we moved in we closed and I

32:17Immediately went and got the trailer and bought the bricks and everything to build my fire pit Just so I could cook with live fire in my backyard Before we even moved in I had it built and ready to go It's um, I think you're doing the right thing in life right now. Everyone's got their thing. They got mine like non-negotiable I really want a fireplace because I I don't I just want to be near a fire I don't want to like the warmth. I don't cook. I don't want to do that I just want to be near it. And honestly, I want the stockings hung by the chimney with care Yeah that my house now has a really nice hearth really nice big fireplace, but it's a gas fireplace I've grown up my entire life. I love maintaining a fire like throughout a night Maintaining a fire creating airflow and like I am my wife just took a video of me She think she watched I mowed the yard the other day and She saw she was in my kid's room and she saw me walking across the street and I'm standing there Just looking at my yard and she videoed me. She's like, oh look at him. There he is She's just he's just taking it all in and I pull my camera out and I take a picture and she's like Oh, which is just a big dumb man Just staring at his yard, but I'm like that way with fire Like you just get you get a good fire going and there's that there's a sense of accomplishment that look I've kept this fire going the entire day, right new house Gas logs already in the whole thing and I was like these got to go these got to go and then It got really cold and I I just I lit the fire and it's really nice and it actually created warmth and I went Oh, I don't have to buy wood Yeah, I don't have to stack it in the snow and the cold and go out go outside when it's 12 degrees I just have to light it and I have been converted. It's fantastic

34:20My god, I'm like turning into this bad. I got a gas grill and I have a gas fireplace You can punch my man card twice. You only have okay. I'm eye rolling very hard, but Also about to get yourself a fire outside like you just said that's your new project I don't have it. I have three fire pits in the backyard I have three separate ones in different areas of the backyard where this but like one fire pits Yeah, I definitely get my fire and I have fires all the time. You can keep your stupid man card You could see you'll see the eye rolls if you watch this you see her just going what the hell We're getting off the rails here. So I love it. You're making brisket. You're making pork butts. You have a truck you're doing It's a food truck. Yes, sir. So you don't have like a brick-and-mortar restaurant You're going around and you're based in Murfreesboro. We're based out of Murfreesboro We the the first solid year I wanted to make sure that we had all of our ducks in a row before we really started traveling too much I did branch out a little bit towards the end of the year We went to Crossville and did the big home Homestead Apple Festival. Oh, wow. Yeah, which was amazing We're going back this year You know, I've come to Nashville a couple of times and do some some orders with l3 Harris Which is a defense contractor right down the street here You know, so we've branched out a little bit But there's there's you know, Rutherford County is the fastest growing county in the country. So it's There's there's plenty for me to do. Is it really there's there's over over 20 people a day moving into Rutherford County That's yeah, that's I did not know that it's it's it's massive it's it's just you know, I moved I moved to Nashville in 89. I believe it was I did too. Yeah and In Murfreesboro from where Atlanta? Okay. I lived with my mother in Atlanta

36:22Until 89 moved to Nashville or moved to Murfreesboro then lived with my dad there and It's it's not it's not even remotely close. I mean saying the saying that Murfreesboro's doubled is It's not even I went to MTSU and 2000 and like 98 through 2001 There together. Yeah, and how old are you? I'll be I'll be 42 next month. My wife and my wife's makes fun of me because I always say I'm just 41 I just turned 43 and I just and I took a year off in between high school and college and then went to college a Year later. So probably at the same time we were there at MTSU. Yeah, but if I go back now It's almost unrecognizable because I don't get there all the time Like I've every say I used to manage I used to be a district sales manager for US foods And I was there all the time But like just it's amazing how it is growing up it's that met the whole Medical Center Drive and Wow, it's nuts. My first my first general manager position was at the Fudd Ruckers in Murfreesboro And it is now a gas station. I'm like, I don't even remember that was over. What is that?

37:38Northfield and broad Memorial broad broad Okay, I used to live in Northfield Commons. Yeah right down the street from there. Yeah, there's there's a Harvey wall bangers Over in that area. It's not a Mexican restaurant, but it was the best place Yeah, my dad's like obsessed with Fudd Ruckers. Is he? Oh like fully obsessed with it. Yeah, he loves it so much So he's like you're in the industry when she go there and I'm like what I don't know. He just I don't know He just fucking loves it Like that was like a field trip thing Like he was like we're going to Fudd Ruckers guys And I don't know if he thought my brothers and I like had the same joy for it We we don't but like it makes my dad so happy But it was it was a great chain in the alright We're gonna take a quick break to hear a word from our sponsors We are talking about net checks today. And you know last week We told you that net checks is your single source for all things people. We made a list recruiting onboarding performance management human resources Scheduling payroll taxes the one thing that we want to focus on today is your biggest pain point hiring and retention What do you use indeed Facebook Craigslist? Well net checks will post to all of those sites for you Automatically, so there's no need for you to post on all these different sites and keep out with it one source Like I said net checks is your single source for all things people. They are always on the employee experience What chefs want has been serving the Nashville restaurant community for over 15 years during that time They've worked tirelessly to be Well, what chefs want?

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40:33It best place to go is is go to my Facebook page and actually see where I'm going to be located that day Because it changes so often You know in in the month of April alone. I think I think I'm at the same place like twice in the month Wow So like this particular week today will be at the you know, Rockville High School Tomorrow will be a Panther Creek Brewery Thursday will be at Blackman High School Friday I have two events one with the health department and then another one Friday night and then Saturday the same thing. I got another event on Saturday evening, too So if you're listeners lest you think you can go see him on these days This is pre-recorded maybe a week before this is done. So those those have probably already happened But if you go to single tree Barbecue on Facebook just you can search you can go to the Facebook page or you can go to my website Which is just www.singletreebbq.com and it's posted on there for every week as well And if you're watching this you can see that he is at single tree BBQ on Instagram and you mentioned you were going to go live Yeah, I always see single tree barbecue is alive. It always pops up on my screen Tell me about that. So The first year we were open I really just worked on execution and Trying to get my operation under wraps sure and one of the things that we didn't do a very we did a very poor job of was our media and marketing and What you know telling our story?

42:11so That has been my plan for this year is to really kind of let everybody know who we are and what we do and what? We're about and what we're planning on doing so Through different connections with people that I've met There's a guy named Sean Walsh out of San Diego, California Who owns Cali barbecue and Cali barbecue media company? You know through some of his guidance and help and some others Simply just do it. I just you know forget about your fears of being on camera and talking and and just do it You're gonna mess up it's gonna happen. Yeah, that's fine Do you start somewhere? But you know, it brought me back to you know, my corporate days of people want to know people not robots and they people like seeing when you stutter or you make a gaffe or whatever it may be so I Have started doing a lot more reels and videos on on all of my platforms with tick-tock and Facebook and Instagram And it's so much I feel like a little kid. I'm trying to learn all over again yeah, and You know one of the things that I wanted to do with it's a part of who we are and what our true north Is is build community. So What better way to do that and then the tools that we have available?

43:38It didn't cost us anything but a little bit of time so we started doing actually this yesterday a Live show on Instagram every Monday night 6 p.m You can get on Instagram and join our live show last night was a lot about the history of who we are How we got started, you know a lot of the questions that you know, we've talked about today and then next week I'll be in Arizona at the Restaurant leadership conference. I'll be there. Oh, I'll see you. I'll see you there. Yeah, wonderful each other. It sounds I love it Yeah, I'll be in Phoenix Monday Tuesday Wednesday. Yeah me me as well. Yeah, so How do that's pretty fun out there so that that Monday? I'll be doing a live with a gentleman by the name of John Iannucci Who is the chief operations officer for a company called Birdcall? They're out of Denver, they're growing a very small company I think they have 10 11 12 locations They're getting ready to open more So we're gonna go live and we're gonna talk about what he's doing and how he's you know developing his business and you know, I'm sure he'll want to catch up and ask questions of me and Then I'm having another guest on the following Monday. That's a part of the borough bourbon club He runs that out of it out of Murfreesboro it's on Instagram as well So we're gonna talk about bourbon and barbecue and all that kind of fun stuff They're doing a barbecue festival later on the year that we're gonna be a part of and then sweet and then one one show a month We'll do some sort of cooking class of sorts so, you know the the last one in April will probably be some sort of live of me showing and teaching how to make something barbecue So good. I'll be watching that one A lot of fun so my new pit that I build there you go Yeah, I'm sitting if you're trying to listen to you. I'm also back my brain building this pit in my mind

45:40He loves things that love that need maintenance though, like Washing his car or the lawn or whatever like he likes things that require new maintenance Yeah, I Don't know I think I don't know what it is. I there's just something that's like doing something that's simple Almost remedial, but you get immediate results from right, you know, I do you like holding laundry hate it Okay. Well that fits in your like boundaries though of like it's remedial but and you get immediate results like it's folded you're done Mmm, it's almost it's not primal though. Okay, so I'm mowing a yard I think watching my cars and easy one, but that's the only thing I can control I always say that like that my help people get in my car and they go Do this is like brand new and I go no I just keep it's the only thing I can control is how clean my car is Right. I can't control anything else in life Really anything else my dog messes up the yard. I mean, I can't I'm the only one in my car Hey, I understand it's the little things I wash mine a couple times a week see look at this Yeah, this is my guy over here. I won't let him in my car I you know, I love the most something you said earlier is you said have you read the book QBQ? Mm-hmm No, I know it See, I'm gonna agree now and QBQ guy. Well, no, I've read all these books too, but he like breathes these books Well, you said it you said when you know, I got the phone call and they said I'm I'm out and you know Thanks for your service and all these things and then you sat down and you said what can I do?

47:16To make this happen and you didn't say they fired me. It's their fault. You didn't blame anybody You stopped and you said What do I need to do? What what makes me happy? What are the things that I need to do to create this livelihood? I have to support my family I have to do these things and you it's a it's a It's a reverse way to think about things versus saying all these things have happened to me and feeling that you can feel that Of course, you can respond to that but then turning it around and saying what can I do? To move forward with my life and you ask these simple questions yourself and you came up with the answer I want to do this that I want to become My own pit master and I want to start my own business where I'm in control right, and I don't want to be put I don't put myself in the situation again look and there's there's a Anybody and everybody can go through life and hit a speed bump, right? And and that's what makes people better and you can you can sit here and go. Oh poor me, right? Well Getting down on yourself and saying oh poor me fine everybody you can do it for a second I do it too. You have to know right and but at the end of the day you got a you know as you know some of my closest people will tell you, you know, just get your shit together and fix it and Action put together as an action. Nobody's nobody cares as much about me as me They just don't you know, I mean my wife probably cares more about me than I care about me but you know, it's it's um, if you don't If you don't get up every day and just go after it. Nobody's nobody's gonna do it for you and You know, I'm not gonna sit back I you know me and my wife actually went to bar Louie about a week after it happened and And I took a picture with me and her standing out in front of it with the big bar Louie sign behind me And and it was the best thing that ever happened to me Being a part of that company or losing that job getting fired I

49:17Mean I look at the same thing. I mean, you know, I think Jen you've had it you had interesting 2021 But you look back on it and you go are you stronger now? Yeah. Well, let's say my husband got sober through Through all that and you know had we not had the struggles prior to him getting sober We likely would not be together today and we're both very aware of that So a lot it was tough. It was very hard. We walked through the fire But now we can dance in the flames of it So it's it is hard, but you do have to go through it And I the thing that gets me through those things is I know the only way out is through Like when you're in the middle of stuff, you can't go over it or around it or under it Like you have to walk through it. There is no alternative so I don't think that's like Inspirational or anything, but that's it's just you have to which makes me feel better about it because there's no alternative There's no there's not I mean I this we would not be sitting here right now having this conversation if I hadn't lost my job in October the end of October 2019. Yeah, I lost my job and then I had Similar thing like what am I gonna do and I started a company I said I'm gonna start this podcast and we're gonna do this thing But this wouldn't be a thing if I hadn't had some real trials and tribulations You know and we look back on that time now my wife and I it's so funny because it was so hard in the moment like and it was Holy shit, like it was like every day. I mean just just just Agony excruciating going through this and we look back on it now as like a fond moment like wow What a that hardship that we went through has made us so much stronger going forward and so many amazing things I quit drinking was my thing. I quit drinking at that time, too But like I had no idea how much that was affecting our lives like I was completely clueless right and being able to stop that and move forward with my life was like Wow, what a what a shift what a pivot and like our relationship. Oh, yeah, it was amazing

51:24It was just one of those things you can look back on and go What can I do to be a better person going forward when you're in stuff? A lot of times, you don't you don't have the ability to be objective and Look outside the box of what's really going on around you and you know I've said it for the last year and a half two years now I never realized how much I've missed of my kids growing up And and you know, I mean when I was traveling three four or five days a week it was you know, I was never at home, you know, and and My wife was a single mom, right? She did everything and she still does 99.9% of everything she's amazing But you know, I just never realized how many baseball games how many birthdays how many you know? Easter's or thanksgivings or Christmases that I missed and and now it's like man. How did I do that? How did I go through life and not be with my kids, you know, I mean And my wife and just family in general and it's it's tough But it's hard to when you're going through stuff Like you said, you know If you don't go through the fire, you know When you get to the other side, you don't realize what you had what you missed what made you stronger for today?

52:43And you know, I've always found that and if you don't go through it and you try to go around it You might be able to get around it, but it's gonna come back up Yeah, yeah, I agree always I get a baseball game last night with my kids I'm one of the coaches on the team but man the the conversations that have come up with my kids around effort and hustle and Not winning none of its around like you need to win damn it. It's all about Effort and put time into it and just these I'm having some of the most amazing conversations with them That I you know If I was at work I would never be able to and I've kind of put some boundaries around that like that I'm gonna be there for those moments. I'm not gonna miss those so that I can Be in a restaurant arbitrarily know that that that's my priority now and it's it is a special it's a really cool moment to be able to sit down and Talk and I put him down to bed and you read the book and then we sit and talk about what that was about And it's I'm learning so many things. Yeah. Yeah, man It's a my my middle child. It has a ton of talent in baseball And in an amazing work ethic, but there's days that he doesn't want to put in the work that is needed and required and You know, he's in he's in fourth grade getting ready to go into fifth grade this upcoming year And so he's got one more year before he tries out for the middle school team Well, you know, there's 30 some odd kids on one baseball team Well, if you have a tryout, they're probably gonna be looking for one or two kids out of the entire school zone, right?

54:24So yeah, I tell him all the time look man, you know, it's it's up to you If you don't want to play baseball fine, you're just doing it for fun. Fine. I'm good with that But if you want to accomplish that goal of playing for the middle school team and or high school, whatever college Whatever you want to do you got to put into work and if you don't put into work There's only one person you can blame for that It's not gonna be me or your mom it's gonna be that person that's looking back at you in the mirror and You know, it's the same thing with my business with your business anything else You know If you're not successful in today's age with all the tools and opportunities that that present themselves on a daily basis You really blame yourself, you know, don't don't wake up a year from now and look back and go I didn't put into work. I Should have gotten it anyways What are your thoughts on that Jen? I Disagree, I think there are new obstacles all the time I also think like even a silly example like tick-tock right like tick-tock shadow bands and They more often shadow ban people of color than they do white women and stuff like that So I think there's all these what do you not know shadow banning is no what's a shadow ban?

55:37And when it's when they stop showing up on your feet It's like they're still posting videos and they're still getting some interaction But it tick-tock will limit the amount of people showing the video to you on the algorithm or in that for you page and stuff Like that, so it's like a quiet way of quieting voices, but it's a thing It's like a it's a thing that happens to a lot of different creators for lots of different reasons and whatever anyway So I think that there's I also think as a as a country like more aware of ways that There's just so much privilege and various things and stuff like that So I agree work hard be successful, and I think working hard can equal success I just don't think that it always does and I think there's a lot of ways for it to not go that way That's not to say I don't think we should work hard. I think we should whatever position we're in I think we should do the best that we can at I Love my job right now, but it is certainly not my dream job. I love the company I work for I will support them forever, but they know it's not my dream job. That doesn't mean when I'm not there I'm not doing the best that I can do for them So I think that to me is the bigger message is like wherever you are do what you can do the best you can at it But I think some there's a lot of luck Involved and there's a lot of other aspects involved in like whatever but that also depends on your version of success, right?

56:55like I Personally don't want like I never want to be a celebrity because I like I'm introverted I want to be alone a lot or like with my family a lot So the idea of celebrity to me like accessible to a lot of people drives me nuts Like I would hate that but I do want to be successful enough where I can You know, maybe not have a regular nine-to-five or in my case now a five to eleven Things like that and you know, give my kids whatever they want and stuff like that So I think your idea of success matters I think the way we get there is gonna look different for everybody and I think I just don't think always Hard work equals success, but it can have you read atomic habits by James Clear? I have not read that one. You got me. I hadn't read that one. Perfect I've got 12 more minutes left on it. Like I'm 99% done Amazing amazing book. One of the things that he says is we do not rise to the level of our goals We fall to the level of our systems right, so Having these habits like you're talking about in baseball You're not gonna say I want to be on the middle school team and that's what you shoot for every single day spending 30 minutes Throwing at a you know, stop set catch playing catch Being in a batting cage doing that every single day and honing in on tiny little bits of your game that you can work on That's the habit you have to have over an extended period of time incremental Increases in that will get you where you need to go. You can't just say I want to be a millionaire Okay, I'm gonna do it like no you have to start saving $20 a day and then over 20 years with compound interest Eventually, you can get there, but it's these small things you do every single day and I think We missed that a lot I think we spend as much time on our phones looking at tik-tok and looking at what other people Put on social media as their version of success and we're trying to define that as ourselves that that's what success is

58:59and I think we're misguiding a generation of people into thinking that you know, my kid wants to be a YouTube star and I'm like I want to support him whatever he wants to do, but like he sees Preston or these other people on YouTube playing fortnight and he's like they have millions of followers and that looks cool and That's not reality. Like that's not reality. I mean it could be I'm not telling him he can't But it's every single day having good habits like talking about last and meditation Every day getting up doing the same things, but it's I just thought that statement of We don't rise to the level of our goals. We fall to the level of our system so many in operations You have to understand that right very much though. And look I agree. I think the point is Simply you're you're 100% right with it depends on your definition of what success is Yeah, right. So, you know my definition of success may be totally different than your absolutely right? So the things that and and the other side of it is is I do think the tools and everything there are for Everyone to be successful the where you have to be Objective is understand what you're really good at Right. So absolutely may be amazing at social media. I Feel like an infant I'm trying to figure out, you know, what buttons to push and you know, so Reaching out and trying to learn it and I still may not be good at it Well, then I may have to hire somebody to help me do that, right?

01:00:28So when you know, yes, there's some luck that goes into it. Sure You got to asking for help is huge too and like it's great that you're able to do that because that's hard for a lot of people and It's I think one of the I said this I've say this a lot like I think we're all here to walk each other home So we do just need to ask for help when we need it And I think it's great that you're able to do that and I hope that people will come to you for help someday, too You know, I hope that's the circle that we're all in at some point It's one of my favorite moments when somebody calls me or messages me and says hey, I got questions for you Hey, let's grab coffee. Yeah, I run a restaurant and I got I don't I'm not I'm alone I feel like I'm on an island and I'd love to pick your brain Can we talk about some things like that's one of my favorite messages to get is like wow. Yeah Let's do that. I think We're so aligned on the fact that you said what I want to do is build community Yeah, that's that's all we're doing here. That's all we're doing here I want to share your story so that everybody else can hear it and go. Wow, that guy seems really interesting I'd love to go support him. I'm gonna go find his food truck I really want to try that brisket and then meeting you and like hey, let's connect everybody in this industry My goal is to help make the entire industry better I want to how do we sustain the locally owned and operated industry here in Nashville?

01:01:44I'm working on some things but like really it's a what can I do and Jen, you know, she wants to make it more inclusive How do we help? Everybody succeed in the business and not just people that want to me There's people that want to that don't know where to get started. Yeah, and I want to make that accessible How do we make that accessible? We're like, hey, look, I'm scared to say I don't know about red wine I'm afraid to say I don't know about bourbon and every time walking to a restaurant they go waiting about wine you're like Nothing, and I don't know where to start. I don't I don't even know where to begin like How do we start those conversations? How do we get those people to understand? That's the building of community and building of the locally owned and operated industry here in Nashville And I think I think that that's what makes Nashville special You've been here for 30 plus years. Yeah what it used to be versus what it is today. I mean, it's slowly taking away What this is what this industry that the Fingerprint of what this industry what made Nashville Nashville some amazing restaurants and go through Hillsborough Village It's it's a whole different place now like it makes me sad Well, you can just go back 20 years, you know I mean if you go back to the early 2000s and take a picture of Broadway Versus what Broadway is today. We used to a cruise Second Avenue. Well, yes. Yes, but you know More more more people know Broadway than they do the the the wonderful establishments we had on Second Avenue Graham Central Station, but even when I first moved here 13 Like you could park on Broadway you could you know, it was a fully it wasn't like just a trans pertainment I say it. Yeah. Yeah It just was it wasn't all that like that was very rare and new and like it still felt very Small and local and I was like safe walking to my car and I didn't carry mace and things like not that it's unsafe But it does feel different than it did when I moved here, you know Disneyland now. Yeah, it's more commercial than it ever Yeah, it was very small. Yeah, like there was 14 boot barns and whatever

01:03:54Anyway, I love the transportation I just wanted to feel like a local for a minute too, but you are a local You're not near nine years in right? Yeah, what was it that said you had to wait one more year was that Charlotte? It was Sheila. Okay. Yeah, you're ready Sheila Sheila from course. She said one more year You have to once you're a decade you can be considered a local. Yeah, I'd give it to you now Nine nine years in Nashville, it was before the city's boom like it was like you could still get a house for $175,000 back then like it was like that. Well, you can still do that now It's just not in Nashville not the house you want to live. Yeah No, I don't think that there is a hundred seventy five thousand there may not be I don't think there is there certainly isn't one in Williamson County. No, I live in 300 square feet. Yeah. Oh my gosh I had a guest in from Ohio like a table and they were like this place is so expensive I was like, I'm sorry like our prices are on line I know and they were like, what is it going house around here like 300,000 and I Did not want to come off rude but like no Williamson County No, no, it's a lot more downtown Franklin. I was like, oh Don't go to Rutherford. Yeah. Yeah said Rutherford's got to be next right? I mean, that's how it's already there Is it really already there? Oh, yeah there was a My dad was thinking about buying a place and he went and looked at a place last week sometime 1300 square feet 0.29 of an acre 0.3, you know third of an acre yard very small yard Vinyl siding not a not a not a very old home and they wanted 279 for it is what they were asking I think the realtor told him that if he was gonna make a An offer that it would have to be above that too Wow So, you know and it wasn't a spectacular neighborhood

01:05:56Yeah, so we're looking at houses and it's really discouraging Did you see that I just put up a video of the guy selling the Apple. Did you watch that one? Yeah That's about as spot-on as you're gonna get so for background. It's this guy selling an apple and it's he's in, California Right. He's right. He's here. He's like he's in Williamson County. Oh, but he's got now he's like, all right this apples So you can only see the half of the video. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I don't know what word he was Anyway, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing He's holding an apple and he's like auctioning the apple as if it's a house and everyone's and like there's a per normal person like $5 for an apple like that's crazy, right? And then the next person's like 20 40 100 and they're like It's the Apple even worth that like a guy's like I have this Apple's like, oh great. You have an apple for said great Tell me about it. He's like no Apple goes on sale. Here it is. It's bidding starts at five like five dollars It's like ten. He's like, but he said five fifteen twenty. He's like, it's an apple I don't know. I've tried to buy eight apples. This is my first 45, you know, I think then a dude walks and he's like Hundred dollar hundred dollars. I'm from California. It's the cheapest apple I've ever seen. Yeah, and it's like Yeah, and I feel it cuz when we bought our our house previous to this not the current house Our previous house the day it went on sale and this is eight years ago the date went on sale They got four offers and we were willing to write the letter We like wrote the letters like we get to meet the owner He randomly showed up while we were viewing the house and we get to meet him and this is my child This is my kid and we want to raise him in this house We wrote a letter that like please sell us the house. We want we'll pay the full asking price We didn't ask for anything just we just want and he and like chose us He had higher offers but the guy was like I want them to live in our house Like they frown on that now like you're not allowed to write letters like they frown on they that that's competitive that's not fair housing because People are choosing you based on this other information needs to be completely fair and I'm like god. It's it's it's crazy

01:08:02How houses go on the market and like that day there's five offers Oh, yeah, there's there's one going on the market in my neighborhood right now for 90 more than comps You gotta love that though. I mean, I mean it's great for me. I mean, I love it Yeah, you know, I mean helps the value of my place But I mean 90,000 more than what the comps are in the neighborhood and that's what he's listed it for He'll get it. Yeah, if he doesn't get more. Yeah, you know, so I mean it's it's nuts, you know, but that's the thing You sell what do you do? You know, you're gonna you take all the equity you got and you go put it into something else Which is you know inflated way too high to so you wait it out or you move to Cleveland Are you good you moved to Ohio? I? Like the southeast I'll stick around. Yeah. Yeah move to Jackson, Tennessee Yeah, me and my my Asian husband Let's go somewhere else That's a thing All right. Well Charlie This was fun, man. I'm excited about your business. I can't wait to try it was you didn't bring any barbecue with you No, I didn't I didn't I was going to try to but he's just I had some calls this morning I didn't have a chance to get it put together. Well, I'm glad you made the drive out all the way out here to Hillsboro Village I love it where we're hanging and I've enjoyed getting to talk to you man. I want to I always say the thing the episode we got to do this again I want to progress as you go along. I want to learn more about you as your business continues to grow We love to share your story right here Go follow Charlie and Singletree barbecue on his Facebook page Go to Singletree BBQ calm. Mm-hmm and on Instagram. He's at Singletree BBQ Facebook he's gonna be posting wherever he's at every single day and I'm looking forward to seeing you next week in Phoenix It's gonna be fun. Let's hang out. Yeah, you know, yeah do something. I'm thinking about bring some microphones

01:10:04And I'm playing in the the golf tournament on Monday morning. Oh nice one. I'm not I'm flying out Monday morning You go it's you're going on Sunday. Yeah, I fly out Sunday night. Nice Are you staying at the? Marriott there. Oh It's expensive wasn't it? It was a that was it was a little bit outside of my budget. Yeah, we went with the Airbnb We're bringing our home in our leadership team. Yeah, I'm staying at a I Don't know it's a hotel like three or four miles away, so it's not not not I can drive it'll be all right We have a pool so you can't kick it with us. There you go. Yeah, I Love it. It's gonna be this random party at your Airbnb with all the past guests on it Christine Christine is also gonna know or yeah, we've got it's gonna be fun We have a big bunch of people from Nashville representing at the restaurant leadership conference in Phoenix, Arizona. Yeah, I Love it. I'm excited. I'm excited. Well cool, man Jen you want to tell them what we got going on here the last part of this thing you get to take us out You get to say whatever you want. Every guest does this they just take the total floor. We will be quiet You can say whatever you want about anything you want, but the floor is yours Well, that's wonderful Probably knows Jerry's final thought every time we think somebody knows that we're wrong. Are you familiar with that term Jerry's final thought?

01:11:24There you go, it's official. Oh wait. No, are you talking about Springer? Yeah. Oh, then yes, okay. Yes. I am Yeah, this is my guy. We got one. You're the first one. I love Charlie He's read my books He was a director of operations He loves live fire He has the floor my guy. Well speaking of books. I'll go out with this then books Have you have you read Dale Carnegie's which one? So that is that is that is probably my favorite out of all And then so since you've read it, you know what the four C's are Yeah, if you put me on the spot, okay You know it kind of goes along with the four C's that don't criticize complain and you know Condemn anybody else for what they're doing because they may not know or need help or whatever may be so it goes along with my Methodology and theories and ideas of growing community, right?

01:12:28so, you know people may not know and just because they don't know doesn't mean they're bad or They don't know what they're doing. They just need help, right? So, you know, we started this whole business to one cook barbecue, but to to grow community So find us follow us come check us out. I'd love to meet you talk to you and grow our community He's thank you for joining us One final question before you leave for sure. Did you have the beard? Was this is this a is this a I got I left my job and I'm gonna do barbecue and I'm not I'm not fucking Shaving again. No, did you have this at? I've had my beard now for Four or five years. Okay, it didn't look new. It looks like it's I was kind of hoping that he was like, no, I lost I was clean shaving man And now I'm doing the barbecue thing and what mountain man now I will tell you that while I was at bar Louie. My boss told me that If I wanted to continue to grow my career I didn't have to but it would be better if I trimmed it up a little bit So I trimmed it down to about a half an inch and and had it clean for a while But yeah, once the bar Louie thing happened. It's never coming off Okay, that's see that's the story I was looking for. Okay, sometimes People like to wear more pieces of flair. Yeah, right Office space, I don't know You've seen office space yes, she's wearing 17 pieces of flair isn't Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, that's all I care about Sometimes people like to express themselves and wear more pieces of flair Like Brian over here. He's got 32 pieces of flair on Okay Charlie's great having you here I'll see you in Phoenix. Yes, sir. All right big thanks to Charlie for joining us Charlie Eblon for joining us from single tree barbecue. Oh

01:14:30I hope that it's nice here in Nashville as Charlie and I are kicking it in Phoenix together having fun and Hope you guys go support him find out where he is follow him on Facebook follow him on Instagram and follow him and follow him follow him follow him because he's a good dude and We appreciate you guys listening Stay tuned Friday Sherry Janaro and then Monday Bob Bernstein. Hope you guys are being safe out there. Love you guys. Bye