Brandon Styll is joined by regular co-host Delia Jo Ramsey and special guest co-host Caroline Galzin of Nicky's Coal Fired for the weekly roundup. The trio covers new openings around town including Pi Town Tacos, Henrietta Red's seafood pop-up Henrietta's Fish Camp, McDougal's...
Brandon Styll is joined by regular co-host Delia Jo Ramsey and special guest co-host Caroline Galzin of Nicky's Coal Fired for the weekly roundup. The trio covers new openings around town including Pi Town Tacos, Henrietta Red's seafood pop-up Henrietta's Fish Camp, McDougal's on 12th, and Mimi's Ice Cream, while debating whether it makes sense to open a restaurant during the pandemic. Delia shares her plan to dine out for the first time since March (at The Catbird Seat) and her recent rooftop adventures at White Limozeen and the Virgin Hotel.
Nashville restaurant legend Randy Rayburn of Midtown Cafe and Cabana joins to give a sobering picture of operating at less than 20 percent of last year's sales, his pivot to a DoorDash partnership through Fresh Hospitality's ToGo platform, and the near-total evaporation of the private events business. He warns that without another round of PPP, a huge percentage of independent restaurants will not survive.
The show then turns serious with a discussion of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's House floor speech responding to Rep. Ted Yoho, prompting Caroline and Delia to share their own experiences with harassment in the restaurant industry and Southern expectations of female politeness. They close with a What's the Delia segment about Nashville's transportainment loophole, specifically the Nash Party Barge continuing to operate as bars remain shut.
"I never thought I'd be praying for the Treasury Secretary to come to my rescue again."
Randy Rayburn, 25:15
"70 percent of the independent locally owned type restaurants will never reopen. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom, but I don't want to paint a pretty picture, because we could not survive without PPP. My doors would close tomorrow and we need another round of it."
Randy Rayburn, 37:47
"It's not every day that you get into an Instagram fight with a bus, but I did."
Caroline Galzin, 1:01:48
"Now is such a time that it is so critical for the business community to come together to support one another, and if everybody is following the rules and you think you're so smart that you found a loophole to flaunt the rules and spread COVID in our community, it's just unacceptable."
Caroline Galzin, 1:08:00
00:00Welcome to Nashville Restaurant Radio, a podcast for and about the people of the Nashville restaurant scene. Now here's your host, the CEO of New Light Hospitality Solutions, Brandon Styll. Hello Music City and welcome to the Nashville Restaurant Radio Roundup presented by Springer Mountain Farms. My name is Brandon Styll and I am joined as always with Delia Jo Ramsey. Hi Delia. Hi. And today we have a special co-host joining us from Nicky's Coalfired. We have Caroline Galzin. Hi. Welcome Caroline. Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having me. I'm thrilled to be back. I told you earlier I've only put on lipstick twice in the last four months and both times were to be on this podcast. So here we go. I feel absolutely honored by that. So we're trying to identify just kind of like this show where we want to talk about the newest restaurants. We want to talk about the best places to go, the best events that are happening around town, where you should be hanging out and it's just not happening out there. So we have some news we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk about some newsworthy topical items. We have a bona fide local legend on the show today. Mr. Randy Rayburn is going to join us a little bit later and talk about his restaurants and how they're doing and what he's doing and a lot of fun things going on today.
01:45We're going to get serious too. We've got an amazing What's the Delia later that Caroline's going to jump in and help out with. But let's get started off and find out how our weeks were. Delia, how was your week this week? Well I just want to start off and say I'm so glad Caroline's joining us today because you and I can only jump around talking about masks and shutdowns so many weeks before we like need we need some new color on the show. So I'm glad to have Caroline here for us. Oh thank you so much. I'm so thrilled to be with two of truly my favorite people. And it's good to see humans. I haven't really seen any humans since Sunday so like we're here and we're having coffee. But I have been sort of secluding myself since Sunday and I'm really sure why. I think I just I went out and checked up a couple of rooftops on a Friday night and that was the first night of the 10 p.m. curfew for places serving alcohol. So I kind of like hit it a little hard like it was the last supper that night. And then I was like I need to calm down. I need to eat healthy because I'm going to a beach next week again and I was like I need to stop and work out and I've cooked a bunch of healthy dinners and that's kind of where'd you go? What was the rooftop bar you went to? Where'd you go?
03:00I went Friday. I started out at White Limousine at the graduate. I'm just obsessed with it. Oh tell us tell us how did it go? Like how'd you even get in there? Um I might have asked for some help with the reservation. Did you did you pull the Nashville restaurant radio card? Yeah well I was like I said I don't want anything comp. I just want a table because I really want to come. I want to go do a staycation for my birthday in a couple weeks and I was like but I want to see it in person to make sure like this is the vibe I want. So I said if you could just get me a table for three people. I want to come and I love pink and I love Dolly Parton and I played um Dolly's role and still Magnolia's in high school so I have all of these connections to like the whole place. I feel like this place was made for you truly. I know I was like please let me go so I we started there um I went with two of my um girlfriends who were also divorced last year so we kind of just went and ordered some food on the patio. It's beautiful it's it's actually a Barbie dream house. You know the pink one in the 80s that I remember walking down the stairs and my mom had built it on Christmas morning. It's like that and you're sitting on it and there's a little pool and it's super cute.
04:07So now it's Delia's dream house. Now it's Delia's dream house exactly and so then we went from there to the Virgin Hotel rooftop um and just had a drink had tequila shots there because apparently that's what we do when things are closing out at 10 p.m. and you're with your two friends and had the moments. So how does it work how does it work on a on a rooftop you and two of your other friends three girls on a rooftop in the middle of a pandemic? Do guys like do guys come over and hit on you or like how does that how does it I don't know I've been single for a really long time and I don't go to cool bars. How does that work for you? Well the good news is uh the pandemic pandemic might be the best thing that's ever happened to single women because there's they're not allowed to roam around and chat with you like they can't so you're at your table they can't be standing and talking to you you're wearing your mask when you go to the bathrooms they can't really see your face you can you can always use the excuse to be a bitch and be like I'm social distancing get away from me and it's actually that's amazing single.
05:15So actually that is a great question I'm so curious because I never really thought about this I know people who have done like um on like tinder or bumble have done like zoom dates but so if you're at a bar do groups of guys try to come up to you or are they not allowed to like stand up and I say this as someone who I actually true confession have not been out anywhere other than work at home. Um I mean one night we were I was out with a girlfriend and we were sitting you know how they can set up a table at a bar and that's kind of a loophole for sitting at a bar uh-huh we got a table pulled up to a bar with my girlfriend and he's I guess tourists came up and we're trying to talk in the bouncer care bouncer security or someone came and was like you can't talk to them you have to be seated at a table so they tried to bring over chairs and they're like you can't have people from another household sitting with you and we're like perfect whoa I had to go away yeah a dream I know a dream. That's incredible so that's my week and then I've just been Um you know what I'm actually having a great week I'm I'm feeling really great and energized which I feel like ever since COVID started sometimes I feel this like happiness guilt almost is that weird to say it's like when I'm feeling really happy and really positive I'm like oh should I feel guilty for feeling that way but I'm just gonna roll with it um just really been very focused on that way but I'm just gonna roll with it um just really been very focused on work this week and I am actually doing something tonight for the very first time which is I am going to a restaurant for the first time since since March what since we closed so I'm very nervous but I am going to a place that I really trust and I'm just going to rip the band-aid off and I don't think I'm going to do it all the time but I've just got to get out I'm going crazy totally understand that
07:16um so will you tell us where you're going and what you're going to eat um well I'm going to set sun which is the place that I have been dreaming of going to eat this whole time um and I'm going to eat everything I just I really am planning on even though it's just me and Tony going I'm going to do my best to eat everything well they brought back that little bit of everything menu for two and they just truly example of everything I think they brought it back because I went on opening night and it wasn't there and I like was like please bring that back because it's amazing so I think okay well if that's what they have then that's what I'm getting all right so do you this is the first time March 13th we go into this thing you guys have not been out to anywhere to eat and that this whole time not one time you've gone out not once I've been in my restaurant I've been in my house and I've been the grocery store a couple of times we've been crazy crazy cautious but now I feel like I've built it up to this thing where I'm like I've built it up to too much of an event so we're just gonna dive in and we're gonna do it are you like nervous like what do you anticipate I am nervous honestly I'm nervous I keep asking myself but because here's the thing I don't have to go to dinner I don't have to go I can just as easily stay home and eat all of the food in my fridge or order pizza or whatever I don't have to go out I'm choosing to go out you know it's a it's a risk I don't have to take but I'm taking it and I'm not really a big risk taker so yeah you know I you're just so you're so cautious yeah yeah it comes to mind it's like that couple you know who like does everything right and they date and they hold hands after the third date and then they like they wait until marriage to like to do the whole thing and then they get pregnant like the first time I have like this weird
09:18feeling like you guys are gonna like touch the wrong thing tonight oh my god no don't I'm just messing oh my god no but that is gonna be my luck so great you know what I'll text you guys in the morning and when I'm on my way to get my covid test because I've also taken three covid tests for no reason so now I'm sure to get it what time is your reservation what time should I have my wife be ready I'll show up but I'm this is my wife Caroline I'm Tony we'll just go for you you know my master plan is about to work oh my god yeah I mean that would be my dumb luck because I have been crazy crazy careful this whole time so no that's awesome but I mean I would I'd rather get covid than a surprise pregnancy so is that wrong to say I shouldn't say that I want neither covid or a baby one maybe more than the other I won't say which I'm gonna I'm not gonna touch any of this yeah I'm just gonna say that for your I I wish you guys luck in all things okay thanks yeah thanks okay anyhow I had a good week I had you know I well I was supposed to be in California this week so I you know I kind of did all my interviews and everything um early and I kind of felt like this week was a bonus week like I didn't I was very very busy but like when you're planning on being on vacation and then you have to change your vacation to next week it was kind of a weird week I don't have a lot of you
11:18don't have a lot of those you plan on being on vacation and you're actually here so you're like I gotta find stuff to do so I kind of took it easy a little bit I got some stuff done around the house I made a home gym inside the house my sister gave me a bunch of like her gym equipment so we like made this whole workout area in the house I'm really excited to get back to like working out like weights and stuff yeah get my swole on you know it's very important uh I had a couple really great interviews Grant Adams on Monday was a really fun interview to get caught back up with him and this guy just is such an amazing kid I mean I call him a kid I mean he's an amazing guy I saw nonchalantly in our first interview I said so what are you doing during the COVID and he said oh I'm writing letters to congressmen and I'm I'm calling them every day and I'm like oh that's good man awesome way to be like and I just kind of went off and then you know the guy gets an ambassador of goodwill for the state of Tennessee from Bill Lee for being one of the integral parts of passing the PPP and I'm like dude what an amazing guy this guy just he puts his mind to stuff and he just does it like he doesn't allow one person to tell him that he can't do something and I just there's something about that spirit and that mentality that I just respect the hell out of I mean I just tell me I can't do something it's like Michael Jordan you know like talk some smack to me I'll come I'll turn around and score 60 on you tomorrow I just love it and then Sarah Turbot on the show Wednesday she just she's amazing you know it's I love people who are absolute pros you know we joke around here in the past few minutes but like she's one of those people that just absolutely takes bartending to the next level and I love people like that I love people that take a part of working in a restaurant and hone in on it and just kill it you know she tells some pretty good stories and just some fun stuff and and then we get to have you on the roundup this week so it's it's been a great week for me
13:22I've been excited love that so Delia let's get into some like actual restaurant news what's going on this week what do we got happening yeah so I mean it's it's still looking to July slow down with openings but pi town tacos opened it yesterday they're a takeout delivery only they've got street style tacos and national hot tacos and first they've got queso I don't know if I've talked about queso in a minute on the show so queso plug um also this week Henrietta Redd's new pop-up Henrietta's is it Henrietta's fish camp is us can't wait to get over there so they've got crab dip and oyster rolls and they've got a summer gazpacho that you can add your own seafood to um so I'm super excited to see what Julie's doing there they've also got a market so I'm excited to check that out and get oysters and take them home so excited about that one also I drove by McDougall's people love their chicken fingers on 12 never had it I've heard it's amazing have you had it they are gonna like their honeybee sauce it's like a sweet and spicy one there's a McDougall's on 12 it just opened yeah like near it right near the gulch nice Tommy you know Tommy McDougall um I've known him since I was like 11 we used to be on the same little league baseball team like the Lipscomb Green Hills League we used to play like right down the street from my house like his dad was our coach like I've known him for a super long time he's a good dude I really like Tommy a lot um and then one more I found was Mimi's ice cream and coffee and Donaldson's I know I'm in my national bubble so I'm a little late on the game sometimes on things that are outside of my bubble but Mimi's ice cream is supposed to be a 60s themed ice cream parlor and it's hard for me as a part-time person to keep up with all openings and closings so just a reminder to people to send in those tips for openings closings and other things because I can only know so much as one person with thousands of restaurants in the city oh come on I can't know everything I get the meanest emails how did you not know about my
15:29assistant go stand in Goodlitzville and I was like do you know I've never been to Goodlitzville I mean but also how are you supposed to know if somebody doesn't tell you and I know not everybody can afford a publicist and nor should they have one but I can only know so much to me an email and tell me that you're there right we had to drop our pr for a little while actually um when we were closed for covid and I just emailed people directly you know some people like you I know but a lot of people I didn't know and I just said hey we don't have pr I know this is unorthodox here's the news I'm doing that a lot right now and it's honestly it's refreshing to kind of just get that straight from you and not to do the go-between sometimes no offense I'm sorry here comes some emails and next um coming soon pinchy's lobster food truck I saw on instagram they're gonna have lobster rolls with homemade potato chips and lobster cop cop salad and mac and cheese and it looks like they're coming next week and republic which is a gastropub is also coming next week I think it's a sister restaurant to the stillery oh where's that opening on second avenue downtown oh okay so it's an interesting time to open something downtown I think but people are downtown looking for food so I had one of my employees ask me today what I thought about new places opening during this time and I just really didn't know what to say I don't want to open a place right now but I wonder if it's a good time or not I don't it's hard to say I guess it depends on what type of business you are right and I guess the ones that have opened if it just had to adapt to what the situation is but I can't imagine it's super profitable right now but yeah I don't know but there is always an advantage to being a new place that people are excited about you know there's always that kind of initial rush of wanting to try something new so and that's the nature of my job is what's new and hot so I mean yeah I mean it's it's tough I think any time you open a new restaurant you
17:35can only see 50% capacity and you have to close at 10 o'clock it's not ideal I mean there's no way that that's an optimal situation for anybody I mean I think people you have to you know I don't think people realize how long it takes to open a restaurant I mean restaurants that are opening right now have been in the works for a year I mean nobody saw the pandemic and went oh there's a good opportunity for me to to take advantage of a market I mean the people that are doing that will do that over the next six months and their restaurants are going to open in a year and a half and that's going to happen I mean there are people out there right now who are you know I think that they feel for the people that are losing their restaurants but also if you were in talks to buy a restaurant right now you're like whoa I feel like the market's about to change drastically here in the next month or two I'm going to hang back and they're going to see what happens because I mean you wouldn't be savvy if you did but the restaurants that are opening right now are people that have that had dreams and plans a long time ago and are like how long do you hold out I mean do you if you're planning on opening in March and you decide to hold it out like I mean you at some point just got to do it like when the optimist you just got it you just got to open yeah I mean it's just it's I don't think it's optimal for anybody yeah and Caroline in reference to the question that you're asked essentially you've reopened the restaurant I think restaurant owners are opening restaurants every day because you change and shift so much so you've essentially opened a new restaurant that is true actually I do feel like I've opened a brand new restaurant it was so much harder to reopen than I thought it would be I don't know why I guess I just thought oh we've been doing this for over three years we'll just pop right back into it but it was really challenging I guess the one good thing about trying to open something new right now is I feel like customers are more willing to give operators a break than any other time you know people aren't so quick to judge or complain or you know things like that whereas I feel like
19:40sometimes when a new thing opens people can't wait to criticize it and customers are being a lot more laid back with operators right now I think everybody understands it's a it's a tough time to be a restaurant so it is what are we looking like on the jobs front Delia um I've seen a few this week I saw Margaritaville speaking of downtown is hiring um I didn't know if they were open right now or not but they're hiring and also I saw Pitchfork pizza which is in good blitzville and I've been wanting to check that out it's from the owners of sea salt and I don't know if we talked about that opening because it was kind of outside my circle too the sea salt owners from Chicago closed sea salt and then they just reopened or not reopened they opened Pitchfork pizza in good let's fill their hiring slider house in midtown is hiring and ml rose is also hiring I saw nice nice and you know we can always uh if you're out there and you are looking for something you know certainly not blind to the fact that extra money uh as far as unemployment stopped this week if you are out there looking for a job and you're healthy and you're one of those people that needs a job right now check out foh and boh.com it's fo and boh.com uh it's a really cool new site that you kind of go in you fill out a profile you can make a video you can kind of click all the different things that you want so if you have tattoos and you don't want to work uh you don't want to wear uniform and you want to be in this part of town you can put those things in there and then places that match your criteria will will look at your profile and potentially send you a request for a job so uh some really cool stuff going on at foh and boh.com and I think this is a big week for you to go and create a profile um if you go to our website at nashvillerestaurantradio.com there is a link that you can go to um it is free if you're looking for a job and if you are an employer and you are needing people um I have a feeling there's about to be an influx of
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23:47all right and welcome back thank you to our sponsors we want to talk about one more sponsor mobile fixture mobile fixture is a restaurant equipment company so if you are starting a restaurant or if you want to upgrade your kitchen in any way contact mobile fixture and they are the ones they are the professionals that will help you get your kitchen outfitted with everything you need they have warehouse and smirna go check them out at mobile fixture.com set up an appointment if you have an idea for a restaurant go sit down talk with ben wetlock and let him know exactly what you're doing he can help you put a plan together today so they sponsor our next segment which is our local legend and we were fortunate enough today to have mr randy rayburn join the show and we're going to go to that right now all right so we are welcomed uh here at nashville restaurant radio with the local legend mr randy rayburn welcome to nash restaurant radio welcome back to nash restaurant radio mr randy rayburn hi hi brandon hi everybody it's a pleasure being with you again my friend so you are joined here we've got delia joe ramsey and caroline gauzen and we are celebrating you as a local legend today midtown cafe is kind of your main restaurant is cabana back open yet yeah cabana reopened may the 11th as matter of fact that monday and midtown reopened may the 12th after we received ppp funding from the sba and as i've told people i never thought i'd be praying for the treasury secretary to come to my rescue again how have things been since you've reopened it's been you know slow uh it's you know the things are growing slowly but steadily in both restaurants leading up to the 4th of july week when some of our not so neighborly downtown bar owners you know really put a kibosh on the
25:49downtown and nashville's growth and shot themselves the rest of us in the foot by trying to go frankly being too greedy and it really our my business at midtown dropped 50 that week and the following week was down even a little bit more we're slowly but surely coming back up a little bit but we're only operating right now at less than 20 percent of the same week a year ago in a year where midtown which is 33 years old opened in 1987 was up 24 percent last year you know everything that can come together right was working well and cabana was doing well because the merit the new marriott moxie in hillsboro village had opened up in january which had you know the traffic the construction the lack of parking had really impacted it for you know about 18 to 20 months so things are you know some of my friends are doing well very well i talked to one friend today who is one of the owners of a restaurant uh blue moon on uh you know on the lake or on the river and you know with only half the seats they're knocking them dead you know i'm talking you know quarter of a million dollars a week net sales i'm in the wrong business i need and a river if they can't drink on broadway they'll drink on the lake i guess right well it's outside you know as he said any place with outside seating you know is doing very well absolutely are you doing takeout and delivery at all or what's that looking like for you we've been doing takeout but it's been hit or miss and i'm in the process of uh realigning myself with postmates in an unusual deal i won't go into it let's just say it's to my advantage as opposed to the normal situation that people are in paying 25 or 30 percent of the fees and in working i'm working we'll be starting up shortly because we've been working with to go austin and them over there from fresh hospitality from their tech group and we'll be having a a very affordable delivery service through door dash that should start probably week after next we're the beta on them
27:54for this and we're not a member of fresh hospitality but we are part of their to go group and we think that that's going to work but we've just been you know getting the menus defined for data entry you know for for recently and trying to realign the menus and actually expanded our menus so our menus expand actually more replicated what postmates was uh offering to the people in their online service when they uh copied our menu yeah so can you give us any insight you said you've got a great deal with postmates is it postmates that you said that you're going to start working with again yeah we've been working with postmates in terms of we have accepted offers from them from the past you know some of the companies will actually go to your website and poach you you know and poach your menu and call you and we we so far have uh you know have not wanted to sign up with anybody we during the door dash because it works through to go a lot of people who have toast have that integrated into their pos systems and it's an affordable situation i think with a seven dollar delivery fee of which we're going to eat ourselves as opposed to a 25 or 30 you know negotiated rate out of the gross and for me this works for us but ultimately probably the door dash deal will be our number one deal but it was taking a while for that to come online and we were getting some business from postmates in which we were just adding on a service fee for our bartender slash server combo expedited person so they weren't doing anything for free you know that's one of the problems i think in too many restaurants the servers wind up with nothing because the tips go to the drivers based upon the way those things are set up so they'll we'll have have a service fee for the door dash but postmates we're we had
29:56a 20 percent gratuity because our servers it's taking them away from their own tables which they're not super busy and we only have 11 out of 22 tables available to us under social distancing but it's uh it's working for us and frankly any revenue in a storm like this is welcome randy i'm curious because we um at my restaurant have had to make lots of um adjustments to try and you know navigate these times have you changed your operating model at all at either of your restaurants or have you had to make different you know adjustments to what you were doing before to what you're doing now well you know i opened i bought midtown cafe in 1997 it opened up in 87 and it was operating normally until three years ago in september i added breakfast which is one of the best moves i've ever added because while it's a lower check average and relatively low food cost it brought in additional business and we served breakfast through lunchtime that was really one of our elements of growth but we were growing in all time segments both breakfast brunch lunch and dinner the last two years once it finally caught on it takes time to market and you know expand to let people know that you exist particularly when you're on a side street um for for me we wound up really the higher you are at the food chain in terms of price point i find it's harder to differentiate you know we bought the disposable bottles with the seals to be able to sell alcohol off site you know cocktails and you know we cut our discounted our wine prices by the bottle online to go and otherwise but we focused on to go initially because i steadfastly refused to pay 25 or 30 percent produced lower revenues but it was beginning to grow and we'd gotten up to over 27 percent the same revenue a year before or same week a year ago from week before fourth of july and cabana had started out with the windows service pickup to go only and then wound up adding dining in service when we finally the mayor's office allowed
31:58us to go back to that but um maybe i'm an old dog i don't want to try new tricks but i didn't want the burden of trying to have my own delivery people who may or may not show up to go out i did have a number of my staff who did not want to come back to work because if they had health concerns or pre-existing conditions some of the others so wanted to wait and see uh what after the federal money uh ran out in addition to the tennessee unemployment so basically at both restaurants it's remained relatively the same uh we you know obviously cabana did a lot of events and private parties and was a big big portion probably 40 percent of our annual revenue of about two million dollars a year and a midtown cafe did two million dollars last year uh in med sales and you know i wouldn't have been able to reopen without the ppp caroline it's uh yeah same same goes for us um you know you mentioned events you know it's actually having this conversation with someone earlier today trying to come up with solutions for private events you know through the next 12 to 18 months and and i'm really struggling with that strategy is that something that you guys have made a plan for yet well we made some modifications for smaller groups you know under the limitations of 10 and a total of 10 at a table in total of 25 cabana has the type of physical space to be able to do that cabana has a private room that holds 12 people but we limit it to 10 people we've only used it a handful of times since we've reopened some on some on lunch some on dinner time but not not a lot but we've got one other sector that we could do that but we can't see the other three tables near it uh if we see somebody there i weigh three tables of people today because we were full at lunchtime where at one point i had one person on a four top and one person on a 10 top because uh that's all that was available when they came in and they were regulars and i was going to take care of their business as regards to private events that's really really hard i'm finance chair of the national convention
34:05center and i can tell you there are not going to be many convention groups or conferences or events the remainder of this year i think a lot of people locally and nationally are counting on more groups coming back next year with the onset of a vaccine i think we're all hoping and praying not only one that it'll happen two that it'll happen soon the three that it works and we don't know any of the threes and it's above my pay grade to try to figure that out but the event business is really really challenging given those limitations and what we found is most people are putting things off or rehearsal dinners are coming in with 15 people or 20 people instead of 100 you know or 125 at cabana and we don't really do those kind of things at midtown cabana did a lot of small groups because of the nature of the cabanas but we did a lot of private events breakfast lunch and dinner and honestly most of that is evaporated and our event coordinator is doing everything possible to book rebook people next year and that's what the convention center is doing you know we have our full staff there basically moving people to next year and the people who are waiting this year are waiting until they have monetary damages before they move to you know cancel or move on or try to rebook next year if those if dates that interest them are available wow so that's some super interesting stuff there randy i'm gonna ask you to do me a favor it looks like you're in a room can you pull out your crystal ball for me and can you tell me what's gonna be uh what do you think's coming what do you think and what are some of the factors that may change this but what do you see next for midtown and cabana or even just our city let me speak to the city because i think it's a it's a better subject for the group situation that we're in um i talked to one of my vendors today who called me because their daughter
36:06was invited to come to national in a couple weeks for a wedding bachelorette party kind of thing and she works with the rewards network which is part of you know the people who provide rewards and punts and offer dollars to help cash flow situations for people but she called me for advice she called me for advice on her daughter and where the where the honky-tonks open and on she didn't want her coming here and one of the things you know that she told me was that her one of her associates that handles the chicago market was that you know 4,300 restaurants in chicago were permanently closed of their clients last week you had yelp announced that about 55,000 of their clients were permanent were closed right now and that the expectation was that 60 percent of them would never reopen i think the analogy that i've heard best was from a epidemiologist who'd worked i think of the bush administration talking about the the pandemic in terms of that it is a forest fire and as long as there is wood available for it to burn it's going to burn when people take mitigating actions like so you know like masks social distancing or what we did with shutting places down you see the change i mean look the numbers in davidson county the actual numbers are down the number of icu beds available is down because people are coming to us from the surrounding counties to our major health hospitals we're a major health care center my concern is i tend to agree with tom calicchio of the independent restaurant group when he says that said earlier this year back in march and april and trying to lobby congress since uh you know this is 70 percent of the independent locally owned type restaurants will never reopen not trying to be doom and gloom but i don't want to paint a pretty picture because we could not survive without ppp my doors would close tomorrow and we need more we need
38:07another round of it correct the good news is both the senate republican plan and the house heroes plan that has passed back in may have elements of that that marco rubio and chris coons and them have put together that has some variations on whether 300 employees are under 100 employees or whether or not your revenues are under 50 from same time a year ago or otherwise you know both of my restaurants now have under way under 50 employees and even way under what we were doing i'll be hard pressed to make my fte numbers at all i won't be able to when it comes forgiveness time but it's still cheap money you know one percent borrowing in effect for the first round and uh hopefully that can carry me until congress comes together and makes a accommodation and make some sausage as they used to say about political consequences but without that and other loans that are being offered for the restaurant industry um you know we like hotels are a cyclical industry and without customer traffic counts growing and without customer check averages there people having the disposable money to create demand it's going to get real ugly i pray that it's going to happen but i don't know how soon they'll come to their senses because people are going to starve people are out there are starving it's uh it's you know the federal funding for unemployment has run out this week and i think we're about to start seeing some effects if they don't get on the ball quickly randy thank you so much for joining us today i know i would love to continue to talk to you for much much longer we'll have to do it again soon is there anything you want to leave everybody with a final kind of a party thought that you could tell the city of nashville i think we're all blessed to live in nashville it's become music city and i think it uh it grew beyond our wildest expectations in terms of the tourism
40:12market downtown i told my friend steve you can and that i i decided not to blame butch anymore spirit of the cvc that i blamed his tv show national for bringing everybody here everybody wanted to come to us and for those gd petals average for me we're going to talk about them next well for me this town is a it's a great place to be i think none of us expected the kind of growth and the in the in the aftermath of the flood and i think this is a good reset whether we want it or not we have to deal with this basically double black swan event that affects every single person in national tennessee america and the world and it won't won't be resolved until people get on board with it because there'll be a high percentage of people who won't take the vaccine because they're afraid of vaccines or other things they don't believe in science and all i can say is god help them i've had friends with covid and i know people who've died from it yeah i think it's definitely real well thank you very much randy you are a uh you are a true local legend and uh it's you're welcome on the show anytime man thank you so much for joining us today ladies thanks for allowing me to be on camera with you thanks randy thank you good to all right all right thank you so much all right in this next segment we're going to jump right in with something that's been kind of interesting to me is the um aoc alexandria ocasio cortez she had a speech in front of congress the other day and we're going to go listen to that now and we'll have some comment i was minding my own business walking up um the steps did you hear it and representative yoho put his finger in my face he called me disgusting
42:14he called me crazy and in front of reporters representative yoho called me and i quote a bitch and i want to be clear that representative yoho's comments were not deeply hurtful or piercing to me because i have worked a working-class job i have waited tables in restaurants i have ridden the subway i have tossed men out of bars that have used language like mr yoho's mr yoho mentioned that he has a wife and two daughters i am someone's daughter and i am here because i have to show my parents that i am their daughter and that they did not raise me to accept abuse from men so we're we're gonna talk right now um i watched that video yesterday the full nine and a half minutes and um it was super powerful to me like i mean i'm i'm almost broke down she there's some moments in that i got teared up because she was so spot on i mean i don't think i've ever seen just just a super spot on strong independent woman get up there and stand up i always just i wanted to like when the the video ended i wanted to like stand up in my kitchen and start clapping like it was just one of those moments to me that i had to do a lot of self-reflection on and um it's tough because i want to get your opinion your opinions about this because there's a lot of implications here as far as we're we're talking about with restaurants and the fact that you guys are both female and i'm gonna i'm gonna step back and kind of let you guys talk for a second but i do want to say you know since i've stopped drinking one of the things to me has been just um feeling
44:16emotions and really not having any cloud of anything not i felt like i was angry in the past and now like hearing something like that i can really hear it uh it's been amazing just kind of looking in the mirror at myself and trying to identify areas in which i need to change and black lives matter everything that's going on right now uh i don't well i don't think i'm egregious in any way it's always an opportunity for me to stop and go hey how can i be a better human and i thought there was a lot in what she said that just me as a man could take away and kind of go yeah i can be better i can always be better and um it was huge to me so you guys have both seen the video uh what are your thoughts i loved it i mean i'm such a fan of hers and anytime anytime a woman can identify you know a situation like that and and fearlessly steps up and says this is not right this is not okay and i will not accept this you know it's just it's it's been a part of the status quo for too long um and and i just you know delia i'm actually curious about your perspective about this because um we are both from alabama even though um and i was gonna ask you i mean i feel like there's something about maybe not just alabama but southern culture in general that do you feel like we're taught like oh you have to put up with us i a thousand percent feel that way that was the way that um my mom raised me was you know you accept the compliments and and on the opposite of the the hate the hatred comments that you get sometimes you also get the harassing comments and you just smile and nod and that's the southern way is accepting it and maybe that's wrong but that's what i was taught to do i even talked about it a couple weeks ago with the homeless guy he threatened me and i just said thank you thank
46:17you until he walked away and it's it's just evidence of growing up in the south and in alabama as you said and and being polite but then at some point you're just i'm just furthering the bad cause and not saying something is i don't know if it's it's bad to just continue to accept that i don't know i've just i've seen it my entire life and i didn't even notice it as different or wrong i just thought that was part of it on basically a daily basis yeah i feel like for me it's um you know what we're taught about manners and and wanting people to like you and and wanting you know people to be pleased with you is um you never want somebody to think that you're a bitch and if you are if you speak out against someone who has harassed you or been unkind to you or you know someone who is in a perceived position of power that is above you then that's you know rude or inappropriate or whatever and for me i i have no problem now acknowledging and calling out those things when when it comes my way um i just guess i've lost the fear of somebody thinking i'm a bitch if you think i'm a bitch great i wish you would because i don't think that i'm a bitch but if that's what you think about me then have at it all right and good for you for getting to that point what's your advice for getting women like me who are people pleasers and want people to like them and don't want to get you know attacked or anything vilified what's your advice to turning that corner as a southern woman i mean just really having that value in yourself and not hearing what somebody else thinks and knowing that it doesn't matter what somebody else thinks you know you and i have a personal relationship and i know that you are truly such a kind and sweet person and you're i can think of many adjectives to describe you bitch would not be one of them
48:23um and you just have to know that that's what people think the only people who matter think that about you you know and um and as long as we don't stand up to men calling us bitches or saying inappropriate things or whatever you know they're gonna keep doing it and keep getting away with it you know i think i can think of so many times working in the restaurant industry especially that i just put up with especially chefs um now obviously not all chefs my husband's a chef but um a lot of chefs because there's that hierarchy in a in a kitchen where you know you never question the chef or you never talk back to the chef or any of those things where i've just been treated with so much abuse just so disrespectfully so unkind um that in retrospect i'm like oh man i i wish i knew then what i know now and you know i'm still waiting for my opportunity to call some people out it hasn't come yet but we'll see maybe one day well i want to start by saying i'm sorry that that isn't normal for you and that it has happened to you and i know that you're just one of i mean we're just there's so many women that have gone through the same thing and i think that's why it's important to speak on this especially about in the restaurant industry specifically because i mean i worked as a cocktail waitress in my 20s and every place i worked i was groped by my boss and you know i was up with um comments and you know grabs from patrons because i knew that i would get a better tip if i didn't say anything and it was about that point for me and i would let the person touch me in a way that i wasn't comfortable with and that i would like probably drink to forget later but it was something that i put up with on a daily basis i thought that's what we did and i wasn't working at hooters or anywhere i mean and nothing nothing's wrong with women that do but this was just a bar and i was putting up with this bullshit that i didn't have to but i did and that was 12 years ago and it's still happening to women and now seeing the different side as far as in food media i still see it i can't tell you how many
50:25times i've gotten disgusting dms and weird texts and i've gotten just approached and followed home even and gotten put in really uncomfortable situations and i haven't said anything because i didn't want to add some more stress to my plate when i already had a lot going on but at some point if they're willing to do it to a public voice in their field then what the hell are they doing to people in their kitchens and in their restaurants and that's why i decided to say something today too yeah i mean it shouldn't be shocking anymore but honestly it is whenever i hear about something like that i'm genuinely shocked i just can't imagine someone who is a supposed professional whether it's a chef or a politician you know treating someone that way especially one of their peers but you know there's a really long way to go but i think the good news is that i do feel that there is a shift in the culture i do feel like some progress is being made and it's changing and i think that you know that clip you played earlier Brandon of AOC speaking out is just evidence of that you know that she does feel empowered to speak out and use her voice and and not stand for this kind of treatment because truly it's unacceptable it really is you know to me that clip was really powerful really it's the definition of leadership you know being able to the the guts it takes for her to stand up there in front of congress to ask for the time to call that guy out was like everything to me in the guts that it takes for you guys to come on this show today and talk about this you know is another thing i mean just i appreciate both of you and i value both of your relationships so much because i've been fortunate to work with some amazing women over the years and i have just such a mad
52:30respect for what you guys do on a daily basis and you know i've been with you Delia on calls and places and i've heard i've heard people you know we're sitting down talking to people and they go you can you can bring your pretty self by here anytime you know and i remember the first time that happened we've heard that happen but like the first thing that happened i looked at you and i said i feel awkward for both of us right now does that happen all the time and you looked at me like all the time and it's like when is we as men gonna like we're gonna realize that like we there's a respect for what you guys are doing and it has nothing to do with bring your pretty self by here anytime like that's just one of those things that's just not acceptable and i'm glad she did that like just publicly calling him out i mean to call somebody and you know i didn't want to say it but to say that in front of reporters i mean it's just it's embarrassing being a man so like that he would say like what's he saying in private if he'll say that in front of reporters like what's this guy saying in private and it's a it's a it's a i'm glad you know she said at the end of the thing she goes i'm glad he did it i'm glad he did it because it shined a light on something that's just glaring out there this this type of shit happens all the time i promise you it's not the first time that's happened i mean listen whether you're a fan of hillary clinton or not she is an incredibly incredibly accomplished person and she has taken more abuse than probably anybody in the history of politics simply for being unafraid to speak up and speak out at the time that it wasn't really socially acceptable for women to do so i mean you know there's a really really really amazing documentary and uh on hulu uh about hillary clinton that came out i want to say about a year ago if you haven't seen it i just whether you're a fan of hers or not just give it a
54:32watch and learn about this just what an accomplished woman who did so much for women having a voice at a time that it just you know wasn't as as much of a thing as it is today i watched her when she was on howard stern um you know amazing i was so floored by that woman after listening to her on stern and i was just like i like i had no i didn't i didn't know i didn't know like she is so amazing so a lot of people said that before that interview and you know this is something you and i have in common is we're both huge howard stern super fans but i know a lot of people said that they were not hillary clinton fans and would not have voted for her and then when they heard that interview they said i wish i heard this before the election because i would have voted for her are you i'm just curious are you one of those people who maybe wasn't such a fan before and then after you heard the interview had a different perspective on her i was i was 100 i feel like i was a different person then um i feel like i've done so much growing in the past nine months just in who i am and really like opened my eyes to a lot of things i've allowed a lot of introspection and um that's one of those things yes i was one of those people after the interview i was like damn i really would have and i i did not vote for for um our current president either so yes i'm one of those people also disclaimer that's what you know disclaimer yeah we all we all change and grow and move through the journey of life yes it's a good thing you know but i i say these things because i say them and we talk about these things because i'm here to say that i'm a flawed person right nobody here is perfect but we're not we're not grandstanding right now and telling you what you need to do but i want to hopefully stand here hat in hand and say
56:36i'm willing to look inside i'm willing to recognize i'm not just going to stand and say i'm perfect look what i do like i'm going to look inside and say hey look whatever like is me i can do better we can all do better on a daily basis and if you're listening to this hopefully you take like two seconds and go you know what i'm gonna look in the mirror for a minute what can i do differently what can i do better and um i mean hopefully that's if there's one small takeaway from this you hear two strong women talk about the fact that this is still happening today it happens in nashville restaurants it happens in the south and if you're listening you can be the first part of change i thought john miller the qbq what can i do the question i asked myself during this what can i do to stop racism what can i do to be a better man what can i do to help women support women which i love that movement of the pictures going on um final thing you know we can move on to our next topic but you put a picture on instagram it was kind of a black and white picture if you see these women supporting women all over can you help me as a as a guy who just sees that i've accepted the challenge what is what's the meaning behind all of this you know i wish i had a better answer delia you posted one too right it's just i think it's honestly i think it's just kind of a fun thing for women to say i support other women i celebrate and champion other women it's kind of like an instagram chain letter almost what i don't know did you post one delia i did but then i saw like some people calling out the women posting the thing being like why did you just post a pretty picture of yourself and i didn't get challenged and i saw an attack because apparently the black and white thing started as a way to raise awareness for women in turkey that were being murdered and i haven't read all this information but mostly that's how it started with black and white photos of these women challenges so then it was women calling out the women who were posting and then i was like well should i delete this like i
58:36don't know but i love seeing all my friends and pretty black and white pictures and i i mean we're all sitting at home let's post a picture where we feel good because we haven't put on makeup in three weeks or three months and i mean i think at some point it got counterproductive with some of the comments on now but hey empowering women that's what this is all about that's what the speech was about that's what i think the black and white photos are about let's stop being caddy and just love and light yeah i'm also just like not a great instagrammer because i feel like i'm an old lady who it's maybe it's not for me i mean i'm 90 food so i made everyone so i'm like hey there's a person back here i don't know well yeah just post a queso picture i'm gonna post a pizza or a bagel and exactly just get back to work that's right hungry hungry people supporting hungry people exactly now that we can definitely get behind yes so to to to switch gears um to talk a little bit about our friends over at super source which we all know that they are a family-owned locally operated chemical and dish machine company jason alice is the journal manager there and he wants to come and do an audit of your dish machine all of your chemicals he's doing staff trainings he's helping identify lots of savings every person he's talked to so far he's saving them 20 25 on their dish machine rental and chemicals if you go to our website right now and you check out our sponsors tab under super source click there he's going to give you three months of a brand new dish machine rental for free now on top of that he's not going to ask you to sign any sort of a contract so this is a if you can if you're past your contract with your other company this is the time to get rid of them and try a new company from somebody who lives here locally one is working really hard to earn your business there's no contract so he earns your business
01:00:39every single week give them a call check them out at our website go to nashrestaurantredo.com click the link and check them out supersource.com also so this is now the time where we get to ask the question i don't know i love that i just love that sounds uh we have a we have caroline galzin as our special guest today and we are going to ask the question what's the delia hit it delia all right so this week what's the deal was specifically inspired by caroline's instagram post this weekend and coincidentally i had what did i post i see a party hot tub passing right now and it of you calling out this party bus on instagram and so i want to say what's the deal with transportation and why are they still running around right now because i think i thought they were supposed to be closed so i just want to know what's going on and where your head is with all of this oh i mean you know i think that i um texted you at one point this week i said you know it's not every day that you get into an instagram fight with a bus but i did um and it wasn't just me actually i can't take full credit um a mutual friend of ours originally posted and called out this uh i believe it was nash party barge i think so yeah the party barge which i guess is a um um a stretch limousine that's supposed to look like a pontoon boat and um they are basically just a bar on wheels and um somehow seem to consider themselves exempt from the regulations that bars are you know not allowed to be open not allowed to serve customers but these party buses still are um and the mayor actually issued an executive order late on friday shutting all of
01:02:42them down but they still operated all weekend so i messaged i i tagged this party barge and said you know this is unacceptable and then they tried to dm me and said something to the effect of um who who are you talking about or what is everyone i think i said why do you not have to say follow the same rules as everyone and they said well who is everyone and then i instead of keeping it in the dms i just screen captured everything that we were messaging each other and posted it on my stories and i tagged the mayor i tagged the health department i tagged the party barge and i essentially demanded that they um give an explanation to the citizens of nashville as to why they are um um propagating the spread of covid in our community they did not respond to that so they no they actually did not respond to that um i know that they did respond to um our our friend who originally called them out and um said something to the effect of well we tell people to put masks on but we can't force them to wear masks basically trying to say the 45 bachelorettes on their boss um had health conditions that prevented them from wearing masks i guess it was a bus full of you know non-social distance drunk asthmatics apparently so who can say who can say i mean it is baffling because they don't serve any food um i heard there's a loophole where if they don't serve alcohol which i don't think they ever serve you alcohol correct i've never been no it's always it's always byob so what's to stop them from being bringing their own like i did on the plane last week they're going to bring their own alcohol and i mean i see them drinking out of cups and not wearing masks when they pass by and i can see them from here all day long um so so they've got a loophole is that correct yeah there's a loophole here's
01:04:46here's the story and this this is just broke you know a couple days ago that if if you are so there's limousine license right so you have like gray line buses you have these buses that transport large groups of people and then you have the uh tour buses that go around the town those are still legal to operate uh because there's no alcohol so they have figured out that if they operate without alcohol they can operate under that same license as like a tour bus they're doing tours not parties right so it is a loophole the mayor's identified that it's loophole they're trying to figure out the next way to stop them um let me ask can i take a quick poll here with everybody before this before let's talk about october of last year what's your take on transportation do you think it's are you one of the people that are like i hate it or you one of the people that are like it doesn't bother me or are you like uh it kind of bothers me but whatever i think that i'm very much in the minority um did i act i've i think it looks like a lot of fun honestly in non-covid times i think it looks like a lot of fun i'm also a lot less of a hater of the bachelor bachelorette broadway shit show culture than i think a lot of other people that live in nashville but i know that i'm that's not the popular answer what's your take delia i mean i know i think it's good for the economy that these people are coming here and it i agree it looks like sometimes it's fun but as someone who hears the woo girls from my part like on a monday that's the x factor that kind of bothers me um i've never they were doing that when you moved in right yeah i mean i can i can't speak to if it's fun but i think you know i'm glad for the national
01:06:46economy to do well so i accept it but in these times so yeah so right now and they're not a cap on how many people can be on this and how our tour bus is operational is there a cap on how many people can be on the bus yeah i fall into i'm i side with you caroline and too for the most part delia i mean i i don't live there you know i don't live downtown or i don't hear them on a regular basis drive me crazy i'm sure delia i think it's cool it does look fun um and you know people are having a blast these people are that are the woo girls that are on the transportation things like they're having more fun because you when i go drive like on saturdays like i drive uber on the weekends or kind of a thing and it rains like it's like fuel falling from the sky they just go crazy and they're having fun but right now and that's why i just want to know like if you had a pre-bias to this before going into this covid deal i think that it is absolute bs that the guys that run this business decide that hey look we found a loophole to spread the virus and we're just gonna do it you know that now i think that now is such a time that it is so so critical for the business community to come together to support one another and if everybody is following the rules and you think that you're so smart and you found a loophole to flaunt the rules and and spread covid in our community it's just unacceptable to me i think that you have to hold yourself accountable not just to your customers but to all of the other business owners why do you get to operate and prolong the amount of time that others don't get to operate you know it's just it's not okay it's really damaging it makes me so upset if you can't tell well and you're but you're you know you have a unique take on this i mean you are a business
01:08:48owner right who is directly affected by this and you have done the right thing the entire time you just said you haven't gone out yeah i mean it's not just me my restaurant is actually open right now i have been able to operate under every phase even even shelter in place while we weren't open for takeout then we could have been um but there's places that haven't you know chopper the fox uh rosemary and beauty queen you know there's all of these bars that are that are not you know crazy party bars that can't do business right now and it's just not okay it's not okay and i i okay what is the deal yet with them and my final thought is i posted about transportation on my facebook the other day and maybe i should open this with explaining what transportation is because people from dallas were like what's that and i was like wait people don't know about this there are rolling hot tubs y'all there is a fire truck there is a tank there are five thousand tractors yeah and people don't know and i'm kind of envious of those people maybe i would be excited about it if i didn't know what it was now i've noticed when you because i actually had to explain this to a friend from chicago who saw my instagram stories and when you explain what this is to someone they think that it's you know they're very amused by it and there's always kind of that whoa wow really but when you tell them about the hot tub one people lose their minds nobody can believe that's real and quite frankly i can't believe that's real i think that that looks like a just a nightmare of communicable disease i just yeah it was terrifying hot tubs are disgusting to start with but it just takes it to another level i agree it's like you know what which looks awesome it looks awesome to me i love hot
01:10:58hell no but it's more of a vanity thing that i wouldn't want to be out in public sitting in a hot tub because i feel like i'm like you know i'm ugly like i wouldn't want to be out like in a hot tub i'm like i'll sit in a hot tub in private i wouldn't want to be like in a hot tub like driving around this i love hot tub i will sit i will tell you this when i travel i always stay at a courtyard by marriott because they have hot tubs really wow i will get in a hot tub in a hotel because you know what everybody in the world is afraid to get in a hot tub and nobody gets in them they're totally clean okay courtyard at least marriott does a good job people get in the hot tubs okay yeah all right it's time for caroline to get in her um transportation vehicle to go to dinner i'm gonna hop to the hot tub and slide on over to the east side uh i love it i i think that you know never mind never mind i have these great ideas for the show i'm like well we now need to do a show from the party barge oh god well i actually said i was like i'm i'm really pissed that they made me so mad by breaking the rules because i actually thought it looks like a lot of fun and now i can never ever rent a party barge for me and my friends to go party post-covid so hopefully they have thanks for opening it they have competitors i did we can get the wagons still yeah yeah i did i did a pedal tavern uh for my wife's 30th birthday um maybe i shouldn't have said that it was just a just a couple years ago um but it was before they had the electric you know motors and there's like the you had to pedal to like do nashville's very hilly and it is a workout and we didn't her birthday is in august and um it was it seems like a lot of fun but like it's hot and you're sweaty and yeah it's a it's a
01:13:03whole thing but it was a lot of fun we were like jamming and we definitely did some woo-wooing to people and um hopefully we can get back to a time if everybody starts paying attention wearing mash doing the right thing we can get back to time we can reopen those things caroline galsen thank you for joining us today on the roundup thank you thank you so much for having me this was always a pleasure to be with you too so thank you without a mask on indeed on the video yes so if you're listening to this this full episode today will be available on youtube today you can go right now to youtube and you can watch the insanity that we are doing right now um go out caroline eat have a good time say hi to tony for us thanks so much guys i appreciate y'all i will come back anytime see you soon bye